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Wednesday, November 11, 2015

Being Jumped by the Spirit




Remember this: Once you let spirits in, they are in.

I read this article on the Uplift website entitled, “Are you a Shaman?” written by Ongodtengertei.

This one definitely has a lot to learn. No disrespect but if that is how it is going to be taken, then so be it.

The main feeling I gathered from this article was someone attempting to dictate the parameters of the Natural world onto the Supernatural world. This is more of a response in the mode of sitting back, reading, and philosophically thinking out the wonders of it all.

I probably died in an Opium den in a past life; I laugh. Let us go on the premise that the spirit world is real for those non-believers. Exactly what would that entail? Mind-blowing, I know.

This paragraph sums up the real thought being pressed upon by the writer:

“You have spirits, but I cannot teach you. Our traditions and ceremonies would be inappropriate for your spirits as they are not Mongolian and it is not their spirits.” In short: go back home and find your own ancestral traditions. They are your birthright. You can follow them as much as you please.

This statement appears to imply: Europeans stick with Europeans. Middle Easterners stick with Middle Easterners. Africans stick with Africans. First Nations stick with First Nations. Asians stick with Asians. 

Everybody be segregated and go play in your respective corners because mixing is a bad thing; segregation, segregation, segregation.

Spirits are bound by their ethnic genre when it come to possession is what this article would have you believe. To this, the spirit world laughs that a person tried to put a working parameter on a divine and undefinable dimension. Is this what Holy People spread? Division?

Cracks open soda; Yeah, I am going there today.

This has now become the internal dialogue of a lot of cultures that are putting up fences to keep the offensive people not of their shared genetic, ethnic, and cultural code-out.

Somehow, this is open discrimination against what is considered outsiders. It is the two faces. One face smiles upon you in welcome and sharing but the real face glares at you in repulsion because of resentment, fear, and disdain. 

The writing comes across emotionally as a person beating off a bunch of wild pigs that have gotten into the garden; rooting up all the food for winter stores. 

This is the repetitive dialogue everywhere my eyes fall upon; get away from me and my culture. Stranger, visitor, non-member, foreigner, alien, and immigrant; these have become insult words. Keep away.

But this is one planet, and science says we come from one origin. If so, why do people treat each other like Martians? People of Earth plan to go into outer space and this is what is going to be carried with them. 

I think if anyone feels that way, then by all means go forth and isolate yourself. Isn’t it a little rhetorical to come back and whine that “you won't let me in”, and “I’m being rubbed out”? Don’t blame others for a situation you brought about. You crawl down in a hole it is because you crawled down in a hole.  

Have you seen something like this before? Does the world look like the play ground for those professing to openly hate someone?

This writing is an attempt to outline the requirements of what it takes to be a shaman in the Mongolian style. Style is the keyword here. Style is defined as a manner of doing something with a distinct appearance, designed in a particular from, with a particular name, description, and title. Style is a human construct.

I do agree with the writer that people searching for meaning outside of what they know could lead them into some places where their outer being clashes with the ideal picture of what that person, place or thing should be because of defining characteristics or behaviors of a group’s culture and belief.

There are a lot of posers, Snake Oil salesmen, and people using whatever it is for financial and social gain. I’m just saying those people are fake.

The other point I took from the writing is: this is not your culture, stop posing and stealing what is not yours. You are not one of us. Stand on the other side of the river and watch but do not cross over. You are not wanted here.

When did it become an acceptable thing to put up a non-existent barrier to your culture, then sale wares and take money while mistreating the people enamored with what you stand for. People like to mimic beautiful things. If the culture is beautiful, people not of that culture will sample from it to keep that beauty with them. Now it is, don’t touch my culture. Keep your filthy little hands off of it.


My question was: If this is the case and there is a problem with people you resent and do not want in your culture because you feel they are a destructive force-then don’t. One of the worst things in the world you can do is silently hate someone, then take their money and hate them some more because you feel dependent on them for something. Don’t think for a moment they can’t feel the hate either.

There are those known cases of people acting as impostors leading people into ritualistic scenarios that end in the participant’s death. This is also another reason to question anyone coming along telling you they can help you with your spiritual issues.

This might bring up the issue of a culture perpetuating mysticism for a selling point but hating the blurry way mysticism removes the idea of being real people with real issues. Putting up a facade is a dreary two way street. If you make the facade you should expect others to help you perpetuate the facade because that is what they know.

If I get sick, I just go to a doctor in whatever field I need help with.

In this case, I do not have experience with Mongolian shamanism. By the description this is more of possession. If a person is capable of accepting spirit into their vessel, the concern should be the inability to stop anything from coming through.

This is where I make a point. If this shaman is being possessed by a spirit to do healing work, how do you know it is a Mongolian Spirit? Is it taken for granted this is a truth because it can’t be anything else?

Is there some defining thing in the Supernatural world that dictates only a person of Mongolian descent can be possessed by a Mongolian spirit; or is there no cultural or ethnic barrier there because spirit no longer has a nationality? Or is this more a human dictate working on a Supernatural realm in which the spirits laugh because it is ridiculous.

Are there not documented cases of spirit possession all over the world?

Yet, the mode of application is the person being possessed is for the majority of the time ethically-specific. If you are an interloper into a culture or ethnic group, you have a bad spirit that they can treat. By this person’s statement, you can have spirits but there must be a division to spirits, vessels, and the spirit world.

Why do I feel like the human mind has now bent its interpretation of the Supernatural to segregate out the souls of people even further? How can anyone be proud to make such a statement? How is this healing anyone?

When it concerns the idea that the person’s soul has been completely removed from the body and has no memory of what has occurred is complete possession. It would not be beyond the realm of believable that someone can be partially possessed. I would think if you were completely possessed by a spirit, there is the likelihood the spirit would not want to go back to where it comes from once it finds a vessel to work through.

There is also the implication that spirits are tame and can be handled by a human vessel, while doing their bidding like a slave. This might be why the medium gets sick; you have to remove the spirit out of you or else, you have an unwanted relative that has come to stay for a long time.

When it comes to having shamanic ancestry, spirit possession could possibly occur at any time to people open to being possessed. It doesn’t mean you are weak, because to take on another spirit you have to be able to withstand what is going on. I would think it would happen to people not aware and taken by surprise because they weren’t expecting another spirit to move in on them.

We call that “being jumped”.

When the writer says “you must be Mongolian or Siberian” how do you know that person does not have ancestral DNA from that location but look completely like another ethnic group? Do they card them too? Just wondering.

Could this be the state of rebuking the person who has spirits but can’t be acknowledged because they are not of the same ethnicity? Oh Division, you are everywhere.


I keep trying to find the specific words for this statement above. It sounds more like “I rebuke you. You are not visually, culturally, or geographically of my people therefore cannot be a shaman in this particular cultural and ethnic social group. Go.”

In my mind I see the priest from the Exorcist with his bible and Holy Water declaring, “Get behind me Satan.”

Isn’t it the same thing?

Bloodlines: Does the supernatural world really care about your basic blood when it moves in the spirit realm? I would think what the spirit needs more is the spirit of the strong, open person it wishes to possess. The message has to come through, why else bother?

It is like buying a car. You want a cool ride, not a lemon.

When it comes to the spirit world, who really knows how it works? I concur, it is not a job you would want. The face of such a person can be happy but it looks exhausted, drained, and strained because of the comings and goings that happen all through the day. It doesn’t just stop and end with a one-time experience to treat or help some person or thing. The spirit will use your energy; suck you dry if you let it.

The best advice I ever got was from a lady named Judy. She said, “Don’t tell nobody.” I would tell you the same thing, “Don’t tell nobody.” If that is the case, you don’t have every person coming to you with problems they can handle themselves if they weren’t so lazy.

Really, clean up your own messes and solve your problems. Don’t go seeking spiritual guidance from a person already beat up by the spirit world. Figure your own mess out.

The more people calling upon a shaman, the more incidences of letting spirits in to help someone while it eats away at the shaman; that is the price the shaman pays for messing in the spiritual realm; being eaten away at.

When you let spirits in on a regular basis, you do not have a choice because you opened the door right up for them to work through you.

A lot of people can write an article telling you how the be, how the spirit world should be, and who can be voted in and out of whatever group is using this function.

On reflection, I wondered how this idea of ethnic-specific shamanism is supposed to work when applied to ethnically mixed members of American tribes. Tribal members are a mixing pot of different ancestry across the board. How many acting shamans would you need to cover all those different ethnic groups in one person? I think not. You’re a tribal member and you are loved; simple as that. 

The more people you have grouping around you in love is just as strong as one person channeling the dead.

Nothing is known about the expanse of the Spirit World. Spirit World doesn’t give a shit what any of us thinks. It will do what it will do. Diversity matters, division only causes problems.


Written by: W Harley Bloodworth

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