Disparage me not, Oh Hunter!

 

Remember this: How wonderful to be wise, to analyze and interpret things. Wisdom lights up a person's face, softening its harshness. ~Ecclesiastes 8:1~

For Educational Purposes:

Insomnia has hit me as the world falls apart with interruption after interruption. People can't navigate Outlook, planes have come to a halt, our good hunters are out in the podcasts trying to conjure up a dual or putting out their diss tracks to call in an offender for the fight.

Click on the golden links for additional reading. If you dare.....

Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD): Current Updates July 2026

I should be asleep right now, but no. I am watching a podcast trying to decide if it is manufactured panic, a contrived psy-op of controversial opposition to gain ratings and monetization, or people talking out their neck. I didn't even check the date it was posted. It is not a good idea to target a high visibility hunting personality that resonates with the common man. Even though that personality does have flaws and failings. It's just not good business. Don't throw your reputation down trying to crawl up another man's back to get the star off the top of an unstable Christmas tree. 

But its November and I was a wee lad......

I am watching these three bros on the couch, kicking back, drinking some buds. These two guys have a guest named Tim Horton on the podcast and are about to ask him his stance, theory, and creative input on CWD (Chronic Wasting Disease). They want to know his takes and thoughts. These two guys are saying they agree with him.  Here are the bullet points. Tim Horton states in summary:

 Agencies are push marketing CWD but if it were serious why would they need marketing dollars to get the word out about it?

CWD is basically Alzheimer's for deer-old age disease, contagious, BUT the big thing about it is it can't hurt humans, you can eat the deer meat and never hurt a deer population. 

**Whispers the CDC has it on their website. There is a bunch of "do not dos" on there because they know with disease, natural selection, mutations, Darwinism, and biological warfare that it's not impossible. If you think it is disease or you are in a high diseased deer area-don't eat it.  It's like the possibility of being hit by a golden bed pan from Outer Space. Unlikely but not impossible. There is a lot of weird happenings in this world. **

CDC: About Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD)

Claims university and agencies used it as an unlimited way for them to get grants to do things.

*Whispers is he going to give them the money to do the research so a plan can be devised to be stewards and keep our deer herds safe? How else does he think this happens because people don't want to pull that out their pocket. **

"It's the biggest racket to happen in the outdoors". Does he mean Uncle Sham? Didn't Nugent say this in a video or two?

To Tim Horton the problem is you take a fringe hunter who hears about this and doesn't want to hunt. They are running people away from the sport that is already trending downwards due to technology and disinterest. The data doesn't support what agencies or others push. Complains about regulating hunters in areas-it's not worth it to go hunting

**Whispers does he not know about the past election's blue wave, and Senator Kennedy stating that the American People are upset because they can't afford life. People don't have extra money. **

This is where Meateater the Podcast comes in. States Meateater and Jason Sumner's are doing a doom and gloom piece; Rinella is so concerned about it. States Rinella throws shade at the captive industry, he is against it. Claims they bashed a deer breeder.  It's a philosophy

**Whispers did he not hear Jason Sumner say that he hopes the captive industry keeps up with their efforts to follow CWD and help combat it? I watched it several times looking for the complaints the other guy had and it wasn't there. We must be watching on different timelines. **

Tim Horton churns out some sort of data to support his claims such as researchers can't tell where deer got it from, no DNA, no RNA. He is saying humans have it.

*Whispers let us clear this up. Humans have the same general structure of prion proteins, but the strain and host adaptation differ. Under normal circumstances, the CWD prion will not replicate in a human prion system. We must be careful in a time of gene editing where things can get spliced, added, edited, and put back together for a different result. We live in a time of gene modification. A good example is a five-year CRISPR/Cas9 project on black-legged deer ticks (lxodes scapularis) which is a vector for Lyme disease. The researchers were editing tick eggs to interrupt mouth part development and armor to disrupt feeding ability. Deer are not yet edited due to factors such as regulatory and ethical barriers, technological challenges, and research focus. Biologists successfully hatched gene-edited ticks for the first time.

Other examples are gene-edited cattle resistant to bovine viral diarrhea virus (BVDV), cattle with slick coats to improve heat stress resilience, and editing boar taints in pigs by delaying puberty. 

These are some of the approaches that can be applied to deer in the future in the wild or managed populations. This will be a whole different post. I can tell you right now. **

The heavy Agricultural part of it (this was his chance to Shine). What do you mean sir?

*Whispers I didn't hear him elaborate on captive cervid populations in agriculture. Maybe I should slide some of these research papers on here? **

Chronic Wasting Disease Transmission Risk Assessment for Farmed Cervids in Minnesota and Wisconsin

Artificial Attractants: Implications for Disease Management in Deer

Chronic Wasting Disease: State of the Science

Tim Horton states it doesn't have anything to do with disease mitigation. Points out disease mitigation in certain counties. He is saying that it is high because that is where the dairy (Milk cow farms) are. There is lack of alfalfa and farmers are shipping in alfalfa that takes on prions that goes to the cow poop. The farmer sprays it back on fields then send crops all around the country. Due to this there is no stopping it. Heavy Ag is where the endemic is through the roof. 

*Whispers you would have thought those farmers learned when they caused a lot of sickness in the contamination of vegetables that were sent to market. But hey, who am I to judge? Here let's learn you something. Mitigation means reducing the severity of something. Not to be an asshole but there is a mitigation hierarchy that is used to guide how to address adverse impacts on biodiversity. This is applied to avoid impacts where possible, minimize unavoidable impacts, restore or rehabilitate damaged areas, and offset residual losses with biodiversity offsets. We have to discern is it wildlife, agriculture, or ecology that he is pointing to ergo he implies dairy cows and deer so agriculture, but it could be captive farmed cervids as well. He is talking about dairy cows and deer so it could be agriculture, ecology, or wildlife.  Let us discern the difference. 

Herd-level risk factors associated with chronic wasting disease-positive herd status in Minnesota, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin cervid herds

Implications of farmed-cervid movements on the transmission of chronic wasting disease

The key distinctions are scale, drivers, and overlap. Wildlife mitigation is species-level and addresses direct impacts on fauna. Ecological mitigation is ecosystem-level and addresses habitat and process loss. Agriculture mitigation is sector-specific, integrating both species and ecosystem goals and addresses impacts from farming practices. All three use the same mitigation hierarchy and may combine measures where an agricultural project can restore an ecosystem and benefit a target species such as bob white quail. **

He claims other people were trying to push him on Meateater as a guest because they got upset about it. 

**Whispers if they were pushing him, they weren't brave enough to vote themselves up to jump into the Volcano that is the Big Woo. Maybe he should have told them they had a mouth to go talk. Sounds more like they were sacrificing him in case it didn't work out, and he got his lick handed to him. Those are not your friends my brother. **

I was straying off the path to taking him seriously, but this is where I just said to hell with this. He starts rattling on in a shaky voice about Chernin group buying out Meateater, they are anti-gun, and that Rinella is throwing shade at the hunting industry. I say throw the shade; throw the whole mountain. Throw the whole Big Woo at them. Tim Horton claims this behavior is weird. It's not. 

In good conscious, if you are going to be the pro to someone's con, at least inform the listener aforehand at the beginning as you state your bold opinion that you don't watch any of the Meateater except the CWD. Then deviate off into how Rinella does his business like its a crime and an indicator what he is doing being invalid in the hunting community. That has nothing to do with CWD.   

Horton really was a sacrifice on the pyre. I would be pissed. I don't think these people realize that the social media and internet platforms are forming guidelines on putting people on blast unless it is for educational purposes and sometimes you are trying to illuminate the subject and not the personal. Ego be damned. The person is just another person in a series of people talking around a subject. It's not meant to be person. Outing the person wasn't as important as speaking on the problem at hand and all the things around it.

It begins to look suspicious like someone is trying to get this dude on Meateater. He is literally stating he is not supporting the concept of Meateater but wants in the door. Then throw the word coward around like that is gonna spook an emotional response to get a desired outcome. Brah, you doing to much.  Who does that? I guess he thinks the greasy wheel will get a seat at the table. 

I stopped on 39:31 out of 1:29:57. I took a break and went back to watching for the plot. 

Elevated silver, barium and strontium in antlers, vegetation and soils sourced from CWD cluster areas: Do Ag/Ba/Sr piezoelectric crystals represent the transmissible pathogenic agent in TSEs?

Never mind, I might have to take a nap and come back to this. I still haven't found any research papers on dairy farms, prions, and wild/captive cervids. Where are they?

~Courtesy of the AOFH~

Lost in Translation: CWD Podcasts

Image by: Ovidiu Timplaru

 

Remember this: As dead flies cause even a bottle of perfume to stink, so a little foolishness spoils great wisdom and honor. ~Ecclesiastes 10:1~

For Educational Purposes:

As always, this is for educational purposes. We are going to examine the content of this issue as it is one more rabbit hole to fall into. Woooooooo Hoooooo! Here we go!

I was playing Russian Roulette with trying to figure out which video this was about because there was at least three that I saw. 

For the record, farming deer to me is so weird. Looking at a high fenced area with cattle ear tagged deer in it is just strange to me.

While doing my trolling of imminent domain on the social medias, I heard a voice cry out from a post that he was unhappy with what he saw on a podcast on CWD. I saw Uncle Ted having a meltdown in a post over the same issue, but he sprinkled another diabolical menace on top of it. 

I cannot wrap my head around the same behavior these people have of posting declarations that reminisce like Corporate speak, that I have become highly allergic to hearing. I am breaking out as I type. When I hear the jargon, "misinformation", I get itchy fingers. 

Let us think about good etiquette. If you are going to complain about someone's podcast, at least when you ship it to the complaint department, do not elude that it is 60 percent crap without providing your own corrective outline for why said podcast content is guano. Then point elsewhere for clarification to the complaint. So here it is:

Video One, Summary the Deer Farmer:

Commentator says the podcast he watched about CWD is 60 percent incorrect as given by the guest. Points out that the podcast host needed to get more information from other sources in the deer farming industry. Commentator states the Deer Farmers are the only ones out here trying to beat CWD. EHD kills more deer per year than CWD has killed in history. Cars kill more deer in fall than CWD in history. Commentator requests that he talk to people on the other side. Commentator gives two names (well respected in the deer farming industry) that can explain the battle. Deer farmers are fighting CWD not because it is on the farms, but deer farmers are trying to find a cure. Commentator claims guest isn't doing jack shit about finding a cure. List questions on what the guest is doing in terms of breeding for SS Neg GEBV. Makes claim the guest is not doing anything except talking. 

I was a wee lad........

This guy was really passionate about this podcast because he is a deer farmer it would appear. This video was recent. The name drops for this dude is Chris Ezell and Shawn Schafer, but it looked like he was throwing shade at Jason Sumners. You may ask who are these people?

Video Two, Summary of Uncle Ted on EHD and CWD (which he has several):

Uncle Ted was interviewed by someone who asks him is the state more concerned with Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) or Epizootic Hemorrhagic Disease (EHD). This post was logged 10-09.

Uncle Ted replies this is the Uncle Sham horror story of his lifetime. Someone is wasting a lot of money studying CWD, which evidence shows it hasn't hurt a deer herd based on annual recruitment in productivity. People can't get CWD, has not hurt a deer herd. The powers that be are not paying attention to EHD, which has confirmed over the years to kill millions of deer. Stated a wipeout in multiple states. Uncle Sham and the game departments aren't concerned about it. He doesn't know what motivates Uncle Sham and the game departments; they are just not good people. 

There are several videos that he is stating there is little proof to CWD. 

I am not refuting. I am just gawking and a looking. 

Let's look at the players in this drama. A well-known hunting personality that scribbles a sentence or two, two people affiliated with the North American Deer Farmers Association, a deer farmer, and the intrepid Director of the Missouri Department of Conservation, who is a biologist. He is on the board of the National Deer Association.

Let us interject another item of etiquette. If you are trying to debate with someone from an opposing perspective, do not insult their experience and knowledge. For you would not want to be treated that way. Stay focused on what you are debating or inserting as additional perspectives or information. 

At the same time, you have to look at the reference in which they are speaking. If the person is speaking on a location that is not in your vicinity, the factors could be completely different, and this will have a certain amount of effect on the situation or the outcome from their relative stance as it satellites or comets you. 

This diatribe is writ to illustrate how opposing sides, or groups from different sectors of an industry should communicate to get the most out of their respective stances. If you are providing substance versus someone who eludes that substance is on the horizon, you might have lost me there, and I will go on my own to find out what is the matter. 

Now I must watch this podcast and move through space and time to see what pissed this guy off so bad. On to the video that appears to be from a month ago unless it is on re-spin.

 

(Intermission as I watch said video). Let's watch it together; maybe more than once. * Hands popcorn *

As I am watching the video this sticks out to me, we have the complaint and this Deer Biologist is catching disrespect. The Deer Biologist is concerned with deer populations in the wild. If you watch it, the Deer Biologist clearly tells the podcaster that he supports scientific study provided by captive deer facilities and hopes they continue. He states he doesn't want to disparage anyone, yet the deer farmer makes the statement this Deer Biologist isn't doing crap. I wonder if he has ever worked for a state agency? 

Maybe the dude walked out on that part to get a beer. 

The Deer farmer and his affiliates are concerned with their herds that are in a fence like a control group. They can feed them what they want, do artificial insemination, monitor for cross contamination, give them ivermectin, selectively breed for genetics and pass traits, and other factors. These deer are in a bubble. They treat them like cows or pigs, as they have ear tags with a number and can be sold at auction. They are not wandering wild.

Once again, this is so weird to me. I was a wee lad......

I wondered if the first person was slightly annoyed because the captive cervid industry was a blimp on the screen in these videos. 

Here is the second video I watched: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18-sVWUIwLE

The title of this one is, The Truth About Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) / The Meateater Podcast Ep. 766. This video was a year ago. It had the same podcaster going back and forth with questions with his guests, these two researchers that were from the Southeastern Cooperative Wildlife Disease Study. This podcast was informative because I remember watching it when he put it out. 

Captive deer are not treated with the bulk of the podcast but in filming you do have to worry about pacing. There is always room for the next video. At 1:43:21 The Genetics and Resistant deer debate covered it somewhat. I wondered if this was what he was talking about.

The captive deer and the wild deer at large are biologically the same with variations in their genes. Supposedly, the genetics of these captive cervids can put off the CWD affliction. The issue I see with this is you have two groups of  animals, wild and captive, that are not living the same life but eventually can overlap if things get so bad that they want to turn the captive animals loose on wild populations to breed out the prion issue. Yet, when one walks into a party, they can be carrying a deadly weapon of disease that no one sees coming now you have a carousel of rotating new problems. I think I heard someone say they did this in Oklahoma. I would have to double check. 

Let us get back to the point. If you are going to watch any kind of material on anything, it would be a good idea to not rage bait with a complaint or elude to some conflict or problem without sitting down and actively listening to what is being plated for you from the piece of media you are complaining about. If you can sit in the woods for hours paying attention to every little squirrel fart and turkey toot, I am sure you can find it in your soul and stomach rumblings to grasp the concept and provide your own.

Listening and paying attention is a skill. Such as this....

Corn and plants can take up CWD prions from bad soil into the roots, stems and leaves in controlled settings; think of all those GMO corn piles out there in the world that all the animals are playing over.  Did you know a coyote or a mountain lion can eat it and poop it out? Or the following scientific research about human genes and cervid prions. Get you a snacky-wacky and have a good read. Feel free to click on any of the following for a jump scare. You can check out the following:

Generation of a New Form of Human PrPSc in Vitro by Interspecies Transmission from Cervid Prions

Prions in Plants? A new concern for chronic wasting disease

Susceptibility of Human Prion Protein to Conversion by Chronic Wasting Disease Prions

Distribution of chronic wasting disease (CWD) prions in tissues from experimentally exposed coyotes (Canis latrans)

CWD prions remain infectious after passage through the digestive system of coyotes (Canis latrans)

Detection of prions from spiked and free-ranging carnivore feces

Large animal models for chronic wasting disease

After you read the first research article, are you trying to tell me that someone couldn't have cooked this up in a lab, flush it onto the world, and walked off kicking dirt up behind them? I am not saying this couldn't exist naturally but I don't want the burger either.

Let us see what kind of attention span you have after reading the above.

At this point, I don't understand what the man was ragging about so I got to go find it. Maybe they are doing some strange stuff on those deer farms still. Get in the truck and lets go stake them out and look for clues.....

When you get right down to it. We are all concerned and want to find a resolution to the problem. 

~Courtesy of the AOFH~

Prehistoric Cave Sounds

Remember this: Listen to the sounds of your ancestors. They survived and died to get you here. 

Have you ever looked back on your ancestors and thought, "Would they be proud of me? Did their trials and tribulations end in an asshole? My somewhat questionable line that has been littered with the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly; ending in me and mine since or before the dinosaurs, or when they got dropped by the UFOs. 

It could be a lot to ponder but in this political climate, are they rolling in their graves?

Fraud Prevention: Attention Readers.

 

Remember this: There is never enough tea in China to stop a scammer from pulling a scam.

If you find yourself at the doorstep of this blog, you came of your own free will. You can turn back anytime you see fit. I just want to let any of my readers, or haters, know that I will never solicit you from this blogger page, or anywhere else. I am not going to actively seek you out either to try and steal your elderly mother or grandma's funds. If you should see this kind of behavior please feel free to use the e-mail prompt on the website and send me the information and I will turn it into the CIA or FBI myself. 

I do not do tarots. I will not come in the form of a medium playing mediarey to the spirit world. 

If you are a dumb asshat speaking to one of my relatives online because you thought it was a good idea to keep tabs on me through them, know that I have already screenshot everything and tracked you down to your flip phone. Off to law enforcement it goes. 

I am not playing with people anymore. 

It has not been the first time that someone has pretended to be me, and its always someone that I know. They get into your social medias and use photos to pretend to be you. Sadly to say it could be your boyfriend, ex, friend, cousin, mother, sister, brother, your current relationships family, friends, or other questionable people. 

People you know and are around in daily life will victimize you as bad as the scammers. 

At one point, Google had this analytic that showed you how many times someone was trying to log in from a foreign site on your blogger. Its crazy stuff people do for no purpose. 

Next thing you know you are the crime.

This happened on Google and when I found out about it I had to kick them to the curb. Ops are everywhere, even in your direct family it would seem. 

I do on occasion ask people for permission to do or say things. If that isn't the case, then just say no and move on. Eventually, someone will help me. 

So with that being said, it is not going to be coming from me or my people. If I do find it out then someone in my peoples is going to walk the plank.

I am not working on other social media platforms to drain the bank accounts of other people. I got my own problems with scammers trying to make a buck from a dry bucket. Yet, here they are. 

Because of this kind of behavior, I barely have any social media. Most of the social media applications are just weighing stations for scammers that pick targets and lure them to out of country chat apps to love bomb the person and start asking for funds and services with crazy stories that no one should believe. 

Go with God!

~Courtesy of the AOFH~

The Harmony of Discord between Nature and the Supernatural

Image by Andres Ramos

 

Remember this: To get through a night that felt to long, to steady hands that wouldn't stop shaking, to remember which direction was home when they'd lost their way.

Have you ever read an argument on Nature and the Supernatural? No? Yes? Maybe?

Do I have someone you need to meet. He is deader than a doornail but he lives on in his words. The author uses Christianity as his deferment but lets not get that twisted and think you can not substitute your own version of religion or philosophy and see what you come out with. It might be interesting. Let us suspend disbelief and belief for a moment and see what we get out of this.

Get a snack and a beverage. I hope you like reading. 

Here is a passage:

"From the first moment or birth-time of modern science, if we could fix the moment, it has been clear that Christianity must ultimately come into a grand issue of life and death with it, or with the tendencies embodied in its progress. Not that Christianity has any conflict with the facts of science, or they with it. On the contrary, since both is and Nature have their common root and harmony in God, Christianity is the natural foster-mother of science, and science the certain handmaid of Christianity. And both together, when rightly conceived, must constitute one complete system of knowledge. But the difficulty is here; that we see things only in a partial manner, and that the two great modes of thought, or intellectual methods, that of Christianity in the supernatural department of God's plan, and that of science in the natural, are so different that a collision is inevitable and a struggle necessary to the final liquidation of the account between them; or, what is the same, necessary to a proper settlement of the conditions of harmony.

Thus, from the time of Galileo's and Newton's discoveries, down to the present moment of discovery and research in geological science, we have seen the Christian teachers stickling for the letter of the Christian documents and alarmed for their safety, and fighting, inch by inch and with solemn pertinacity, the plainest, most indisputable or even demonstrable facts. On the other side, the side of science, multitudes, especially of the mere dilettanti, have been boasting, almost every month, some discovery that was to make a fatal breach upon revealed religion.

And a much greater danger to religion is to be apprehended from science than this, viz., the danger that comes from what may be called a bondage under the method of science,--as if nothing could be true, save as it is proved by the scientific method. Whereas, the method of all the higher truths of religion is different, being the method of faith; a verification by the heart, and not by the notions of the head.

Busied in nature, and profoundly engrossed with her phenomena, confident of the uniformity of her laws, charmed with the opening wonders revealed in her process, armed with manifold powers contributed to the advancement of commerce and the arts by the discovery of her secrets, and pressing onward still in the inquest, with an eagerness stimulated by rivalry and the expectation of greater wonders yet to be revealed,--occupied in this manner, not only does the mind of scientific men but of the age itself become fastened to, and glued down upon, nature; conceiving that nature as a frame of physical order, is itself the system of God; unable to imagine any thing higher and more general to which it is subordinate. Imprisoned, in this manner, by the terms and the method of nature, the tendency is to find the whole system of God included under its laws; and then it is only a part of the same assumption that we are incredulous in regard to any modification, or seeming interruption of their activity, from causes included in the supernatural agency of person, or in those agencies of God himself that complete the unity and true system of his reign. And so it comes to pass that, while the physical order called nature is perhaps only a single and very subordinate term of that universal divine system, a mere pebble chafing in the ocean-bed of its eternity we refuse to believe that this pebble can be acted on at all from without, requiring all events and changes in it to take place under the laws of acting it has inwardly in itself. There is no incarnation therefore, no miracle, no redemptive grace, or experience; for God's system is nature, and it is incredible that the laws of nature should be interrupted; all which is certainly true, if there be no higher, more inclusive system under which it may take place systematically, as a result even of system itself. 

And exactly this must be the understanding of mankind, at some future time, when the account between Christianity and Nature shall have been fully liquidated. When that point is reached, it will be seen that the real system of God included two parts, a natural and a supernatural, and it will no more be incredible that one should act upon the other, than that one planet of particle in the department of Nature should act upon and modify the action of another. But we are not yet ready for a discovery so difficult to be made. 

Thus far the tendency if visible, on every side, to believe in nature simply, and in Christianity only so far as it conforms to Nature and finds shelter under its laws. And the mind of the Christian world is becoming, every day, more and more saturated with this propensity to naturalism; gravitating, as it were, by some fixed law, through imperceptibly or unconsciously, toward a virtual and real unbelief in Christianity itself; for the Christianity that is become a part only of nature, or is classified under Nature, is Christianity extinct. " (Bushnell 7-9)

How did that make you feel? Do you need to lay down on a couch, or pull up a chair? These young whippersnappers' heads are spinning.

That is gonna be one hell of a campfire talk.

And no, I haven't forgotten about the long lost and uncontrived Jungian post that is eluding me. 

~Courtesy of the AOFH~

Source Cited:

Bushnell, Horace. "Nature and the Supernatural".Charles Scribner's Sons, (1907), p. 7-9.