Lost in Translation: CWD Podcasts

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Remember this: As dead flies cause even a bottle of perfume to stink, so a little foolishness spoils great wisdom and honor. ~Ecclesiastes 10:1~

As always, this is for educational purposes. We are going to examine the content of this issue as it is one more rabbit hole to fall into. Woooooooo Hoooooo! Here we go!

I was playing Russian Roulette with trying to figure out which video this was about because there was at least three that I saw. 

For the record, farming deer to me is so weird. Looking at a high fenced area with cattle ear tagged deer in it is just strange to me.

While doing my trolling of imminent domain on the social medias, I heard a voice cry out from a post that he was unhappy with what he saw on a podcast on CWD. I saw Uncle Ted having a meltdown in a post over the same issue, but he sprinkled another diabolical menace on top of it. 

I cannot wrap my head around the same behavior these people have of posting declarations that reminisce like Corporate speak, that I have become highly allergic to hearing. I am breaking out as I type. When I hear the jargon, "misinformation", I get itchy fingers. 

Let us think about good etiquette. If you are going to complain about someone's podcast, at least when you ship it to the complaint department, do not elude that it is 60 percent crap without providing your own corrective outline for why said podcast content is guano. Then point elsewhere for clarification to the complaint. So here it is:

Video One, Summary the Deer Farmer:

Commentator says the podcast he watched about CWD is 60 percent incorrect as given by the guest. Points out that the podcast host needed to get more information from other sources in the deer farming industry. Commentator states the Deer Farmers are the only ones out here trying to beat CWD. EHD kills more deer per year than CWD has killed in history. Cars kill more deer in fall than CWD in history. Commentator requests that he talk to people on the other side. Commentator gives two names (well respected in the deer farming industry) that can explain the battle. Deer farmers are fighting CWD not because it is on the farms, but deer farmers are trying to find a cure. Commentator claims guest isn't doing jack shit about finding a cure. List questions on what the guest is doing in terms of breeding for SS Neg GEBV. Makes claim the guest is not doing anything except talking. 

I was a wee lad........

This guy was really passionate about this podcast because he is a deer farmer it would appear. This video was recent. The name drops for this dude is Chris Ezell and Shawn Schafer, but it looked like he was throwing shade at Jason Sumners. You may ask who are these people?

Video Two, Summary of Uncle Ted on EHD and CWD (which he has several):

Uncle Ted was interviewed by someone who asks him is the state more concerned with Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) or Epizootic Hemorrhagic Disease (EHD). This post was logged 10-09.

Uncle Ted replies this is the Uncle Sham horror story of his lifetime. Someone is wasting a lot of money studying CWD, which evidence shows it hasn't hurt a deer herd based on annual recruitment in productivity. People can't get CWD, has not hurt a deer herd. The powers that be are not paying attention to EHD, which has confirmed over the years to kill millions of deer. Stated a wipeout in multiple states. Uncle Sham and the game departments aren't concerned about it. He doesn't know what motivates Uncle Sham and the game departments; they are just not good people. 

There are several videos that he is stating there is little proof to CWD. 

I am not refuting. I am just gawking and a looking. 

Let's look at the players in this drama. A well-known hunting personality that scribbles a sentence or two, two people affiliated with the North American Deer Farmers Association, a deer farmer, and the intrepid Director of the Missouri Department of Conservation, who is a biologist. He is on the board of the National Deer Association.

Let us interject another item of etiquette. If you are trying to debate with someone from an opposing perspective, do not insult their experience and knowledge. For you would not want to be treated that way. Stay focused on what you are debating or inserting as additional perspectives or information. 

At the same time, you have to look at the reference in which they are speaking. If the person is speaking on a location that is not in your vicinity, the factors could be completely different, and this will have a certain amount of effect on the situation or the outcome from their relative stance as it satellites or comets you. 

This diatribe is writ to illustrate how opposing sides, or groups from different sectors of an industry should communicate to get the most out of their respective stances. If you are providing substance versus someone who eludes that substance is on the horizon, you might have lost me there, and I will go on my own to find out what is the matter. 

Now I must watch this podcast and move through space and time to see what pissed this guy off so bad. On to the video that appears to be from a month ago unless it is on re-spin.

 

(Intermission as I watch said video). Let's watch it together; maybe more than once. * Hands popcorn *

As I am watching the video this sticks out to me, we have the complaint and this Deer Biologist is catching disrespect. The Deer Biologist is concerned with deer populations in the wild. If you watch it, the Deer Biologist clearly tells the podcaster that he supports scientific study provided by captive deer facilities and hopes they continue. He states he doesn't want to disparage anyone, yet the deer farmer makes the statement this Deer Biologist isn't doing crap. I wonder if he has ever worked for a state agency? 

Maybe the dude walked out on that part to get a beer. 

The Deer farmer and his affiliates are concerned with their herds that are in a fence like a control group. They can feed them what they want, do artificial insemination, monitor for cross contamination, give them ivermectin, selectively breed for genetics and pass traits, and other factors. These deer are in a bubble. They treat them like cows or pigs, as they have ear tags with a number and can be sold at auction. They are not wandering wild.

Once again, this is so weird to me. I was a wee lad......

I wondered if the first person was slightly annoyed because the captive cervid industry was a blimp on the screen in these videos. 

Here is the second video I watched: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18-sVWUIwLE

The title of this one is, The Truth About Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) / The Meateater Podcast Ep. 766. This video was a year ago. It had the same podcaster going back and forth with questions with his guests, these two researchers that were from the Southeastern Cooperative Wildlife Disease Study. This podcast was informative because I remember watching it when he put it out. 

Captive deer are not treated with the bulk of the podcast but in filming you do have to worry about pacing. There is always room for the next video. At 1:43:21 The Genetics and Resistant deer debate covered it somewhat. I wondered if this was what he was talking about.

The captive deer and the wild deer at large are biologically the same with variations in their genes. Supposedly, the genetics of these captive cervids can put off the CWD affliction. The issue I see with this is you have two groups of  animals, wild and captive, that are not living the same life but eventually can overlap if things get so bad that they want to turn the captive animals loose on wild populations to breed out the prion issue. Yet, when one walks into a party, they can be carrying a deadly weapon of disease that no one sees coming now you have a carousel of rotating new problems. I think I heard someone say they did this in Oklahoma. I would have to double check. 

Let us get back to the point. If you are going to watch any kind of material on anything, it would be a good idea to not rage bait with a complaint or elude to some conflict or problem without sitting down and actively listening to what is being plated for you from the piece of media you are complaining about. If you can sit in the woods for hours paying attention to every little squirrel fart and turkey toot, I am sure you can find it in your soul and stomach rumblings to grasp the concept and provide your own.

Listening and paying attention is a skill. Such as this....

Corn and plants can take up CWD prions from bad soil into the roots, stems and leaves in controlled settings; think of all those GMO corn piles out there in the world that all the animals are playing over.  Did you know a coyote or a mountain lion can eat it and poop it out? Or the following scientific research about human genes and cervid prions. Get you a snacky-wacky and have a good read. Feel free to click on any of the following for a jump scare. You can check out the following:

Generation of a New Form of Human PrPSc in Vitro by Interspecies Transmission from Cervid Prions

Prions in Plants? A new concern for chronic wasting disease

Susceptibility of Human Prion Protein to Conversion by Chronic Wasting Disease Prions

Distribution of chronic wasting disease (CWD) prions in tissues from experimentally exposed coyotes (Canis latrans)

CWD prions remain infectious after passage through the digestive system of coyotes (Canis latrans)

Detection of prions from spiked and free-ranging carnivore feces

Large animal models for chronic wasting disease

After you read the first research article, are you trying to tell me that someone couldn't have cooked this up in a lab, flush it onto the world, and walked off kicking dirt up behind them? I am not saying this couldn't exist naturally but I don't want the burger either.

Let us see what kind of attention span you have after reading the above.

At this point, I don't understand what the man was ragging about so I got to go find it. Maybe they are doing some strange stuff on those deer farms still. Get in the truck and lets go stake them out and look for clues.....

When you get right down to it. We are all concerned and want to find a resolution to the problem. 

~Courtesy of the AOFH~

Prehistoric Cave Sounds

Remember this: Listen to the sounds of your ancestors. They survived and died to get you here. 

Have you ever looked back on your ancestors and thought, "Would they be proud of me? Did their trials and tribulations end in an asshole? My somewhat questionable line that has been littered with the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly; ending in me and mine since or before the dinosaurs, or when they got dropped by the UFOs. 

It could be a lot to ponder but in this political climate, are they rolling in their graves?

Fraud Prevention: Attention Readers.

 

Remember this: There is never enough tea in China to stop a scammer from pulling a scam.

If you find yourself at the doorstep of this blog, you came of your own free will. You can turn back anytime you see fit. I just want to let any of my readers, or haters, know that I will never solicit you from this blogger page, or anywhere else. I am not going to actively seek you out either to try and steal your elderly mother or grandma's funds. If you should see this kind of behavior please feel free to use the e-mail prompt on the website and send me the information and I will turn it into the CIA or FBI myself. 

I do not do tarots. I will not come in the form of a medium playing mediarey to the spirit world. 

If you are a dumb asshat speaking to one of my relatives online because you thought it was a good idea to keep tabs on me through them, know that I have already screenshot everything and tracked you down to your flip phone. Off to law enforcement it goes. 

I am not playing with people anymore. 

It has not been the first time that someone has pretended to be me, and its always someone that I know. They get into your social medias and use photos to pretend to be you. Sadly to say it could be your boyfriend, ex, friend, cousin, mother, sister, brother, your current relationships family, friends, or other questionable people. 

People you know and are around in daily life will victimize you as bad as the scammers. 

At one point, Google had this analytic that showed you how many times someone was trying to log in from a foreign site on your blogger. Its crazy stuff people do for no purpose. 

Next thing you know you are the crime.

This happened on Google and when I found out about it I had to kick them to the curb. Ops are everywhere, even in your direct family it would seem. 

I do on occasion ask people for permission to do or say things. If that isn't the case, then just say no and move on. Eventually, someone will help me. 

So with that being said, it is not going to be coming from me or my people. If I do find it out then someone in my peoples is going to walk the plank.

I am not working on other social media platforms to drain the bank accounts of other people. I got my own problems with scammers trying to make a buck from a dry bucket. Yet, here they are. 

Because of this kind of behavior, I barely have any social media. Most of the social media applications are just weighing stations for scammers that pick targets and lure them to out of country chat apps to love bomb the person and start asking for funds and services with crazy stories that no one should believe. 

Go with God!

~Courtesy of the AOFH~

The Harmony of Discord between Nature and the Supernatural

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Remember this: To get through a night that felt to long, to steady hands that wouldn't stop shaking, to remember which direction was home when they'd lost their way.

Have you ever read an argument on Nature and the Supernatural? No? Yes? Maybe?

Do I have someone you need to meet. He is deader than a doornail but he lives on in his words. The author uses Christianity as his deferment but lets not get that twisted and think you can not substitute your own version of religion or philosophy and see what you come out with. It might be interesting. Let us suspend disbelief and belief for a moment and see what we get out of this.

Get a snack and a beverage. I hope you like reading. 

Here is a passage:

"From the first moment or birth-time of modern science, if we could fix the moment, it has been clear that Christianity must ultimately come into a grand issue of life and death with it, or with the tendencies embodied in its progress. Not that Christianity has any conflict with the facts of science, or they with it. On the contrary, since both is and Nature have their common root and harmony in God, Christianity is the natural foster-mother of science, and science the certain handmaid of Christianity. And both together, when rightly conceived, must constitute one complete system of knowledge. But the difficulty is here; that we see things only in a partial manner, and that the two great modes of thought, or intellectual methods, that of Christianity in the supernatural department of God's plan, and that of science in the natural, are so different that a collision is inevitable and a struggle necessary to the final liquidation of the account between them; or, what is the same, necessary to a proper settlement of the conditions of harmony.

Thus, from the time of Galileo's and Newton's discoveries, down to the present moment of discovery and research in geological science, we have seen the Christian teachers stickling for the letter of the Christian documents and alarmed for their safety, and fighting, inch by inch and with solemn pertinacity, the plainest, most indisputable or even demonstrable facts. On the other side, the side of science, multitudes, especially of the mere dilettanti, have been boasting, almost every month, some discovery that was to make a fatal breach upon revealed religion.

And a much greater danger to religion is to be apprehended from science than this, viz., the danger that comes from what may be called a bondage under the method of science,--as if nothing could be true, save as it is proved by the scientific method. Whereas, the method of all the higher truths of religion is different, being the method of faith; a verification by the heart, and not by the notions of the head.

Busied in nature, and profoundly engrossed with her phenomena, confident of the uniformity of her laws, charmed with the opening wonders revealed in her process, armed with manifold powers contributed to the advancement of commerce and the arts by the discovery of her secrets, and pressing onward still in the inquest, with an eagerness stimulated by rivalry and the expectation of greater wonders yet to be revealed,--occupied in this manner, not only does the mind of scientific men but of the age itself become fastened to, and glued down upon, nature; conceiving that nature as a frame of physical order, is itself the system of God; unable to imagine any thing higher and more general to which it is subordinate. Imprisoned, in this manner, by the terms and the method of nature, the tendency is to find the whole system of God included under its laws; and then it is only a part of the same assumption that we are incredulous in regard to any modification, or seeming interruption of their activity, from causes included in the supernatural agency of person, or in those agencies of God himself that complete the unity and true system of his reign. And so it comes to pass that, while the physical order called nature is perhaps only a single and very subordinate term of that universal divine system, a mere pebble chafing in the ocean-bed of its eternity we refuse to believe that this pebble can be acted on at all from without, requiring all events and changes in it to take place under the laws of acting it has inwardly in itself. There is no incarnation therefore, no miracle, no redemptive grace, or experience; for God's system is nature, and it is incredible that the laws of nature should be interrupted; all which is certainly true, if there be no higher, more inclusive system under which it may take place systematically, as a result even of system itself. 

And exactly this must be the understanding of mankind, at some future time, when the account between Christianity and Nature shall have been fully liquidated. When that point is reached, it will be seen that the real system of God included two parts, a natural and a supernatural, and it will no more be incredible that one should act upon the other, than that one planet of particle in the department of Nature should act upon and modify the action of another. But we are not yet ready for a discovery so difficult to be made. 

Thus far the tendency if visible, on every side, to believe in nature simply, and in Christianity only so far as it conforms to Nature and finds shelter under its laws. And the mind of the Christian world is becoming, every day, more and more saturated with this propensity to naturalism; gravitating, as it were, by some fixed law, through imperceptibly or unconsciously, toward a virtual and real unbelief in Christianity itself; for the Christianity that is become a part only of nature, or is classified under Nature, is Christianity extinct. " (Bushnell 7-9)

How did that make you feel? Do you need to lay down on a couch, or pull up a chair? These young whippersnappers' heads are spinning.

That is gonna be one hell of a campfire talk.

And no, I haven't forgotten about the long lost and uncontrived Jungian post that is eluding me. 

~Courtesy of the AOFH~

Source Cited:

Bushnell, Horace. "Nature and the Supernatural".Charles Scribner's Sons, (1907), p. 7-9.

Just like Heaven: A Supernatural Accord

 Remember this: Past life memories transition into a supernatural accord.

Not to long ago, I am having a conversation with my partner-in-crime. This conversation is based around ruminations I am having that he is listening to. It is more like a conversation with myself and he is just present to hear. Out of nowhere he says to me, "I know why you love Nature so much."

I ask him, "What do you mean?"

He responds, "It reminds you of Heaven. Somehow you remember heaven, but you don't realize that is what it is."

I thought about it and decided maybe he is right. I sat with this thought. I am still sitting with this thought; then to realize you are aggressively protective of Nature, but simultaneously spiritual.

This is a can of worms.

This supernatural accord that comes from possible past life memories are exhibited when an individual's recollection of a previous existence links to a binding metaphysical pact, spiritual contract, or cosmic law that bridges past and present realities.

At this point, we could argue that over the years from simple cell to human, as DNA kind of falls off, some of us are left with those fragments of DNA that remember to protect and nurture, and there are those that don't.

The supporting argument is the running thought about this supernatural accord that is past down verbally, sacred text parabling the concept, entrenched in governmental considerations for its people, and undoubtedly an individualistic spark in the human soul. I am sure there are other ways this has trickled down through the centuries. 

Trauma is a great re-enforcement. The sandcastle theory is a good place to start. You have a child out on a beach. The child builds a beautiful sandcastle. On one hand the ocean waves come and over time keep beating down this child's effort. The other option is another individual comes along and out of spite, kicks it down. 

Its the ability to feel the intention from the acts and motives of the individual that makes all the difference. The ocean is the ocean. We accept what it will do.

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The kicking of the sandcastle is those select few humans that decide and carry through with the destruction of all things great and good that we were entrusted with to do stewardship towards; everything in our reality. 

This idea of stewardship should be one of cultivation and not exploitation of the Natural world.

Where is this indicated? The Bible, the Quran, Indigenous belief, Buddhism, Hinduism, etc. 

You can't escape the supernatural accord. With that being said, you will not escape the consequences for not doing that one job the supernatural gave you. Stares.

Atheists even follow this supernatural accord and they worship no god.

These are some passages from Horace Bushnell you can talk about over the campfire with your buddies out in the bush.

"Instead of regarding the supernatural as that which acts on the chain of cause and effect in nature from without the chain, and adhering to that sense of the term, we use it, very commonly, in a kind of ghostly, marveling sense, as if relating to some apparition, or visional wonder, or it may be to some desultory, unsystematizable action, whether of angels or of God. Such uses of the word are permissible enough by dictionary laws, but they make the word an offense to all who are any way inclined to the rationalizing habit. On the other hand, there are many who claim to be acknowledged as adherents of a supernatural faith, with as little definite understanding. Believing in a God superior to nature, acting from behind and through her laws, they suppose that they are of course, to be classed as believers in a supernatural being and religion.(Bushnell 29-30)

"It is no longer necessary to go hunting after marvels, apparitions, suspensions of the laws of nature, to find the supernatural; it meets us in what is least transcendent and most familiar, even in ourselves. In ourselves we discover a tier of existences that are above nature and in all their most ordinary actions, are doing their will upon it. The very idea of our personality is that a being not under the law of cause and effect, a being supernatural." (Bushnell 31)

"Thus, nature, for example, never made a pistol, or gunpowder, or pulled a trigger; all which being done, or procured to be done, by the criminal, in his act of murder, his is hung for what is rightly called his unnatural deed. So of things not criminal; nature never built a house, or modeled a ship, or fitted a coat, or invented a steam-engine, or wrote a book, or framed a constitution.  These are all events that spring out of human liberty, acting in and upon the realm of cause and effect, to produce results and combinations, which mere cause and effect could not; and at some point of the process in each, we shall be found coming down upon nature, by an act of sovereignty just as peremptory and mysterious as that which is discovered in a miracle, only that a miracle is a similar coming down upon it from another, and higher being, and not from ourselves. (Bushnell 31-32)

When I reflect back on past lives, being reported a form of Heaven in church or elsewhere, and how Nature is considered science-based when it looks more and more like the human existence is way past supernatural, I wonder how humans have a problem just standing in this and appreciating it for what it is. Others would tell you we don't exist based on a scientific idea, but here we are; the scratch on the record of the universe.

Is it a past life?

Was my young mind implanted with an idea of Heaven?

Am I real?

Are you real?

Is this real?

Based off of the thought, which I question how is a thought happening, not a supernatural event that is dressed up in the cause and effect of a concept that we named science, is any of this real and happening?

Or are we galactic ghosts? A version of a whisper of a whisper, what was but might be once again? In a place, far far away?

Image by Oleg Gapeenko

I guess we have a supernatural accord then.....

~Courtesy of the AOFH~

Sources cited:

Bushnell, Horace. "Nature and the Supernatural". New York, Charles Scribner's Sons, (1907). p. 29-32.